How can I wake some one fully that has inherited deep sleep disorder? ( Or is a beddwetter)?
My son is a bedwetter. He is 13 and we need to change this. I have read alot and searched the internet for answers. The most logical thing Ive found is inherited deep sleep disorder. There are places that will help you change the sleep paterns. I have most of the info I need to do my own program with him but I cant get him to wake up In the middle of the night. He can get up and carry on a conversation with me but he never remembers it in the morning, and from what Ive read that means he was not awake. He was in a sleep walking stage. We cant afford one of these programs right now as they cost 0- a couple thousand dollars. We need your help
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Here is my son’s story -
Our stuggle with enuresis
Keithen turned 7 years old in February and still wets the bed at night and sometimes has accidents during the day. Here is a little about our journey with enuresis.
When my son turned 5 he was bedwetting every night and having at least one, usually more, accidents each day. Our family doctor did a urinalysis to make sure he didn’t have any infections or anything and that came back normal. He referred us to a urologist. The urologist put him on Ditropan. He also ordered an u/s. I filled the perscription and waited a bit, unsure if I wanted to give it to him. We decided to wait on the u/s, feeling pretty sure that this was not physical but instead a discipline one. (Didn’t care if he was wet…wouldn’t stop what he was doing to go…engrossed in play…we saw a pattern to when accidents happened…etc.)
That wasn’t working so we tried the meds – I think we did a total of 3 doses of Ditropan. He HATED it. There was no pretty color or flavoring to it to make it palatable to kids. It smelled very strong and tasted nasty. The side effects were horrible. He would get dizzy and he fell asleep in the middle of the day. With the start of Kindergarten coming up soon, I felt the side effects were unacceptable. I didn’t want him getting sleepy like that when he was in school and he was simply not himself on the medication. We stopped them – like I said I think we tried 3 doses. We struggled through the rest of the year on our own.
Around his 6th birthday, someone on the Mothering boards suggested chiropractic to me as a treatment for enuresis. We were open to the idea and decided it was worth a try. Through a network of local mothers, we found a chiropractor with special training in treating kids.
We started treatments 3 times per week. This did seem to help. The first time that he woke up dry, I honestly cried. I was so happy for him to see that he was making progress. And I was so relieved that maybe we had found an answer. At our next appointment I had to choke back tears of joy and relief as I told our chiropractor our good news. I even asked to give him a hug because I was so deeply grateful for the help he had given my son.
Shortly after staring treatment, he was waking up dry about once every two weeks – a huge accomplishment compared to how things had been! And his number of daytime accidents decreased. Around this same time we had a checkup with our family doc and with his urologist. We refused to try the meds again because of the side effects. We reported that the chiropractic treatment was helping and agreed to do an ultrasound. The ultrasound came back normal.
As his chiropractic scans got better and his accidents decreased, his visit frequency decreased. After a couple of months of chiropractic treatment, our chiropractor suggested that we try DHA supplements. These made a HUGE difference for us. This was probably the point that nighttime accidents went down to once a week or so. Daytime accidents at this point were reduced to ones that seemed undeniably behavioral (only wetting while playing on the computer). We were doing so much better!
You may wonder why the DHA supplements were recommended and how they help. Children with enuresis have increased levels of prostaglandin E2 and nitric oxide. Omega-3 fatty acids are known to inhibit the synthesis of prostaglandin E2 and renal nitric oxide. Bed-wetting children have an underdeveloped region of the brain that controles nighttime micturition (as noted by their inappropriate startle response). Omega-3 fatty acids play a critical role in the development of and function of the CNS including micturition control and startle response. Nations with the lowest prevalence of bed-wetting children consume more than double the fish/seafood as compared to the nations with the highest prevalence of bedwetting children.
A week before his 7th birthday, I was frustrated once again. He had backslid. He was no longer cooperating with taking his DHA and he was wetting the bed almost every night. (He still wears pullups to bed.) He had been having a daytime accident several days per week again. I still think those are mostly behavoral – tied in to computer/gameboy/etc. – activities where he is super focused. Chiropractic visits are now only once every 2 weeks as his body looks good, so I don’t think the increase in accidents was due to a physical problem.
We have gone through periods of taking his Gameboy away waiting for him to go a week with no daytime accidents. A month after he turned 7, things seemed to be looking up. He was having occasional dry nights and was having more dry days than wet ones.
I think I do need to get him back on the DHA on a regular basis as the drop in the DHA levels in his body may be creating some of our problems (at least the night-time part). I may have to find ways to sneak it into his food if he continues to avoid taking the pills. We had to stop seeing the chiropractor back in April because we couldn’t afford it anymore. He has definately regressed since then.
I wish we couldn afford to go back to regular adjustments.
In Kindergarten he only had 2 or 3 accidents at school all year long. Last year, in first grade, I think he had 2 or 3 accidents at school which were "giggle pees" when he was laughing too hard with a friend in gym class and at a class party. This year, in second grade, he has come off the bus wet one time. (He has an hour long bus ride!) I’m relieved that it hasn’t been a big problem for him at school. I remember that my cousin was "that kid" in grade school who was always being sent to the class for clean clothes. I remember the stigma that it can carry to be the "stinky kid" who wets his pants. I am thankful that he doesn’t seem to be dealing with that at school.
I hope our experience helps some other families out there who are struggling with this problem. I know I am eternally grateful that we found chiropractic and the DHA supplements to help our son instead of going the traditional medical route with the prescription drugs.
go to the doctor and have him sent to a sleep clinic for testing. you should never self diagnois. you could make it worse. use the goodnite pants
my oldest son had the same problem,i woke him up before i went to bed,if he wasn’t awke enough to walk i would help him to the bathroom and stand there with him so he didn’t fall,then walk him back to bed,other wise to you could take him to the doctors and maybe be put on a nasal spray for bedwetting
If you happen to live in Michigan there is a free clinic in Brighton on Sat.. I know it’s a long shot but what the heck!!
K